Chariho School Parents’ Forum

January 3, 2007

The U.S. Department of Education’s report on Chariho

Filed under: Budget,Chariho — Editor @ 7:53 pm

At last night’s Hopkinton Town Council meeting, the Education Options Committee presented the following information. 

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District Name:
Chariho Reg Dist
schools for this district
County:
Washington
County ID:
44009
Mailing Address:
455a Switch Road
Wood River Junction, RI 02894
Physical Address:
455a Switch Road
Wood River Junction, RI 02894
Phone:
(401) 364-7575

NCES District ID:
4400150

State District ID:
98

 District Details
 Characteristics Show Less 
Grade Span:  (grades PK – 12)
PK KG 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12
Total Schools: 7
Total Students: 3,880
Classroom Teachers (FTE): 342.0
Student/Teacher Ratio: 11.3
Summer Migrant Students: 0
ELL (formerly LEP) Students: 15
Students with IEPs: 651
Type:  Regular School District
Locale/Code:  Rural, inside CBSA / 8
Status: No Boundary Change
Metro Status:  MSA – Not Central City
CSA/CBSA:
77200
Supervisory Union #:
000
 Staff
Average Total Teacher(FTE):    District: 342.0    State: 245.7    National: 179.5
Teachers (FTE)
  Total: 342.0  
   Prekindergarten:    N/A
   Kindergarten: N/A
   Elementary: N/A
   Secondary: N/A
   Ungraded: N/A
Total Staff (FTE): 553.1
Other Staff (FTE)
  Total: 211.1  
   Instructional Aides: N/A
   Instruc. Coordinators & Supervisors:    N/A
   Total Guidance Counselors: 74.0
      Elementary Guidance Counselors: 45.0
      Secondary Guidance Counselors: 29.0
   Librarians/Media Specialists: N/A
   Library/Media Support: 4.2
   District Administrators: 6.0
   District Administrative Support: 7.8
   School Administrators: 51.0
   School Administrative Support: 18.9
   Student Support Services: 5.2
   Other Support Services: 44.0
 Fiscal
  Amount Amount
per Student
Percent
Total Revenue: $47,108,000 $12,195
   Revenue by Source
      Federal: $1,810,000 $469 4%
      Local: $41,844,000 $10,832 89%
      State: $3,454,000 $894 7%
Total Expenditures: $44,961,000 $11,049
   Total Current Expenditures: $42,107,000 $10,310
      Instructional Expenditures: $26,097,000 $6,166 62%
      Student and Staff Support: $5,727,000 $1,483 14%
      Administration: $3,719,000 $963 9%
      Operations, Food Service, other: $6,564,000 $1,699 16%
   Total Capital Outlay: $2,301,000 $596
      Construction: $1,365,000 $353
   Total Non El-Sec Education & Other: $0 $0
   Interest on Debt: $0 $0
Note: Details do not add to totals due to rounding.
Note: Fiscal data (including per pupil count used in this table) from 2003-2004.
Total Population Under 18: 5,737
   Hispanic or Latino: 105
   Non Hispanic or Latino: 5,632
   Population of one race: 5,625
      White alone: 5,457
      Black or African American alone: 30
      American Indian or Alaska Native alone: 75
      Asian alone: 30
      Hawaiian or other Pacific Islander alone: 1
      Some other race alone: 32
   Population of two or more races: 112
Note: Census data from 2000.
Source: CCD public school district data for the 2004-2005 school year.
Note: “N/A” means the data are not available or not applicable.

This report is taken from the U.S. Department of Education’s National Center for Educational Statistics website, specifically the Common Core of Data.  It reports that Chariho has 57 administrators and 74 guidance counselors.  Also of interest is the teacher-student ratio.Superintendent Ricci say’s it is inaccurate and does not know where the information comes from.  According to the US Dept of Education’s CCD website, “The CCD consists of five surveys completed annually by state education departments from their administrative records.” 

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9 Comments »

  1. If Mr. Ricci disputes these numbers, does he offer accurate numbers? One number that jumped out at me is the number of Guidance Counselors at the Elementary level. Do you happen to know what grades this encompasses? I don’t remember having Guidance Counselors until I was in the High School (9th grade). What services do Guidance Counselors provide to elementary students?

    Comment by Curious Resident — January 3, 2007 @ 8:23 pm | Reply

  2. There has been a steady increase in “parenting services” for students, at younger and younger ages. The recent report from Education Week is titled “From Cradle to Career.” The title speaks more to this change than I could. From what I have read so far, some of the metrics it deems positives, I find to be negatives.

    As for Mr. Ricci, he points us to the budget, which does report a lower number of these positions. I do not know why there is such a discrepancy. Perhaps the answer to that is more interesting than the actual numbers.

    Comment by cspf — January 3, 2007 @ 9:47 pm | Reply

  3. So why not get rid of the “parenting services”? Does the community support replacing parental responsibilities with “Guidance Counselors”? Maybe this is an area that can be reduced without the schools scaring parents into supporting these positions?

    Comment by Curious Resident — January 3, 2007 @ 10:04 pm | Reply

  4. I’m sure they are mandated. As with many programs championed by special interest groups, they find a few isolated cases where intervention is wanted and apply the programs to all.

    I do not believe the majority of parents want these services, but then again I could be wrong. There is very little objection to them. At least not that we hear about.

    Not that I have heard of it at Chariho, but I have heard from teachers in other areas that parents want to bring their kids in earlier and have them return home later. “Parenting” has gone out of fashion for some.

    Look at sex-ed. Many EU countries (and some US districts) have gone so far as to say that parents do not hold the exclusive right to teach these subjects. On that subject, look at the SIECUS guidelines. I doubt more than 5% of the parents would agree with these guidelines but they are currently in place at our schools. Eg. masturbation discussions for 5 yr-olds.
    http://www.siecus.org/pubs/pubs0004.html
    http://www.siecus.org/pubs/guidelines/guidelines.pdf
    Just look at the battle Heritage of RI is in right now (see todays OpEd in ProJo and 3 letters to editor over the last few weeks). I believe there is a culture war in America right now, and as Mao, Hitler and others have made clear, to change society you must separate the children from the influence of the parents (currently the strongest voice of traditional values).

    Comment by cspf — January 3, 2007 @ 10:42 pm | Reply

  5. Agreed on all points…I keep an ear on what is being thrown at my children and haven’t encountered any masturbation discussions, although it may have been slipped by me.

    As for parents not objecting to psychologists and the host of other parental replacements, until you shared the Chariho budget, I had no clue how much was being spent in this area. I’ve always depended on my elected representives to protect my wallet from this type of nonsense. If these positions are mandated, perhaps it is just one more reason we should look at rejecting mandates?

    As for the culture war, I am familiar with the concept of taking responsibility for parenting away from parents. Sadly, in this country, this has been going incrementally for years and most people seem oblivious. For greater understanding of this issue, you need to look no further than the devastation inflicted upon children in family courts. A topic for another place, but there is clearly a systematic approach to separating children from parents and nobody seems to notice nor care.

    Comment by Curious Resident — January 3, 2007 @ 10:51 pm | Reply

  6. I think what should be taken from these numbers is that the state, and indeed the US Dept of Ed, does not have an accurate account of Chariho staff. Looking at the budget, it just doesn’t make sense and I don’t see how you can hide admin or counselors without putting them on the budget (how else would they get paid). Again, what I find interesting is that the state either doesn’t know, doesn’t care, or hasn’t noticed that the numbers are out of whack.

    I think that the EOC highlighted these numbers, not so much to say they are high, but to say they are frustrated in getting the info from the school. I can understand that if it is true. I can also understand Chariho’s position if it is inundated with requests that necessitate work outside of their normal duties.

    Truly, I think part of this is from the tri-town arrangement. It does not breed trust as it does not encourage the school being part of the community (considering it would have to be part of 3 communities at once). People don’t trust Charlestown because they have such a larger tax base but contribute less. People don’t trust Richmond because the main infrastructure is located on their land (and that’s where most of the money goes). People don’t trust Hopkinton because we have double the elementary building needs (which doesn’t seem fair to those with 1). It’s a difficult arrangement.

    But the school being a parent is another tough issue. In a perfect world, there would be two parents who work together, with the help of the extended family. But, unfortunately, things have changed.

    The libertarian view would be that if we cut supports, society would eventually learn to fix the problem itself. The problem could be that people would be hurt in the short term while this change is taking place.
    The liberal view would be for the state to step in and provide what is lacking at home. The problem could be that the more we do for the family, the less it does for itself.
    The conservative view would be to facilitate more involvement from the family either by punishment or coercion. The problem could be that it assumes there is involvement to be had.

    In my opinion (somewhere between conservative and libertarian) is that the school social worker should be identifying external supports that are not present in the family but can facilitate more involvement (or provide it outright). We have churches, community groups, grandparents, friends, neighbors, etc… There has to be somebody who cares enough to get involved.

    Comment by cspf — January 5, 2007 @ 10:49 am | Reply

  7. Interesting concept…instead of non-related government employees trying to take over the parental role, they could be limited to identifying external resources that might be helpful?

    This might be an acceptable transitional role for government while we try to rollback all the damage caused by government interference in the first place. I do have much faith in many of the charitable organizations which tend to be motivated by true caring rather than career ambitions. Perhaps you can explore this further at Chariho? We could cut way back on the social services professionals and leave a few behind to coordinate outside help…that might work! Now if you can convince your colleagues on the committee to look outside the box, maybe we can reduce the budget to a level that is manageable.

    Comment by Curious Resident — January 5, 2007 @ 9:55 pm | Reply

  8. […] current numbers reported by the US Dept of Education show our teacher:student ratio at 11.3:1.  The cap (which can […]

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  9. Great site and interesting reading

    Comment by iPhone community — July 14, 2007 @ 4:48 pm | Reply


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