Chariho School Parents’ Forum

January 16, 2008

Contract and minutes

Filed under: Corruption,transparency — Editor @ 10:33 pm

I finally received the new support personnel contract and negotiation meeting minutes in digital form.  There was no explanation as for the delay.  Not sure if Bill Day and Barry Ricci decided not to block it, if they realized they didn’t have the authority to deny, or if someone else spoke to them – it just came in an email.

I can understand that not everyone knows the laws – but why is the default position to hide the material?  I’ll post it this weekend.



  1. Who cares what they can legally hide…it’s our money. Chariho should fall over itself to make all information available to the people who fund their empire. Every last dime belongs to other people.

    Keeping their spending habits to themselves is wrong. Sure, we can be a pain in the butt with our varying opinions of how our money should be spent…deal with it, it’s our money.

    The administration acts as if Chariho is a secret society. They don’t limit their cloak and dagger behaviros to financial matters either. Arrests records, staffing numbers, Special Education results, etc. are all hidden from the public.

    I simply do not understand how voters and town leaders can support ever increasing spending at Chariho when Chariho won’t even be open with us about their current and past spending? We want to give them more money? What is there to have confidence in? The education of our children is subpar…the spending is way above average…confidence? Why?

    Comment by Curious Resident — January 17, 2008 @ 10:15 am | Reply

  2. Just another reason to go to the Town Council Meeting and SUPPORT the Town Council Tuesday so they will vote to NOT pass or support another bond! CHARIHO does not support the taxpayer, many on the school comm. are arrogant, and do not reflect the interests of the towns they represent. Again and again, they push “Quality Education” down our throats, and NOTHING could be further from the truth. We pay the most, and get the least in education. We are at the BOTTOM of the swamp, not even at the top of the swamp for test scores. We wast more, and teach less then most any state! MORE MONEY????? I say NO WAY!

    I fought hard to prevent this last bond from passing, and I have no desire to wage the good fight again. If the bond had paqssed, would anyone consider doing the vote again to OVERTURN a “YES” vote? Before we give more money to this crew, lets clean up the many issues in education that we have.

    Comment by Dorothy Gardiner — January 19, 2008 @ 8:05 am | Reply

  3. That’s the key Mrs. Gardiner. Chariho has to prove that they can educate our children at a reasonable cost before we ever lock ourselves into decades more of the free-spending ways of Charlestown and Richmond. They claim it is about the children, but if it were about the children there would be an outcry from Richmond and Charlestown demanding to know why our children test so poorly at such a high expense. They don’t care about the children, they care about Chariho employees and their families.

    I join you in hoping the Town Council holds strong and understands that Hopkinton can’t afford the status quo any longer.

    Comment by Jim L. — January 19, 2008 @ 11:26 am | Reply

  4. Charlestown and Richmond…dumb and dumber, will Hopkinton play the role of dumbest? If Hopkinton politicians succumb to the pressure being applied by the other towns, we will be locked into decades more of the same old nonsense. If we do this, we are truly idiots.

    Notice how Charlestown plays the game. They don’t want every district taxpayer paying the same for education, so they manipulate the meeting and push the issue to the back of the bus. BUT, when Hopkinton leaders try to resist a re-vote, Charlestown politicians accuse Hopkinton of obstruction. Why is it not obstruction when Charleastown refuses to discuss tax equity? We’ve already voted on giving Chariho more money, and it failed. How about voting on tax equity this time?

    Mrs. Gardiner and Mr. L. are right. We can’t accept the status quo. Chariho does a crappy job of educating our children and it costs us an arm and a leg to boot.

    Chariho is all about the adults. What do the adults want? What do the adults need? Look at the contracts…are they for the children? Look at the number of employees, is that for the children? Of course not…Chariho is heroin to the adult addicts who live off the community. Like addicts, they can’t get enough of our money. They need ever increasing amounts and they give too little in return.

    Stay strong Hopkinton…illiterate woodchoppers aren’t as dumb as they think.

    Comment by Curious Resident — January 19, 2008 @ 11:54 am | Reply

  5. One would think that a no by the council and if they cave another no to another bond by the ‘illerates’ would make tax equalization become crystal clear or possibly inviting. Hopkinton aid has been lived off of for years and no mention of that. Charlestown didn’t want to pay for there own school in the very recent years. When they ‘crunch’ the numbers it will be hard to swallow whether on their own or with ‘Rich’ mond.

    Comment by Woody — January 19, 2008 @ 5:11 pm | Reply

  6. Charlestown is in the enviable position of being able to afford their own school system. The problem for them is to build their own school system they will have to pay higher taxes. The funny thing is that they could still probably keep their taxes lower than what we pay in Hopkinton, yet they resist breaking away from Chariho because they don’t want to pay anywhere near as much as we already pay in Hopkinton.

    When you hear a Charlestown taxpayer or politician lambaste Hopkinton for our attitude about wasting even more money at Chariho, keep in mind that they are saying this out of fear that they may have to spend as much of their money as we currently spend. I hope this is clear to everyone? Charlestown criticizes us when we individually spend two to three times more for education than they do. Until they either accept tax equity or build their own school system, they are nothing but hypocrites. They put money before the education of the district’s children. They should be ashamed.

    Comment by Curious Resident — January 19, 2008 @ 7:15 pm | Reply

  7. You make it sound like all Charlestown taxpayers have money hand over fist. It’s only part of the population that has the money, mostly those living south of Route 1 and many of them could careless about the school district since they only use it for a summer residence! Come up into the area north of Route 1. Drive down Route 91 or go through Shannock or Columbia Heights or Kenyon, tell me these people have money to burn. Many Charlestown taxpayers are in the same boat as you and I. It isn’t easy for them either. I find it so ironic that you want a lower budget and complain about the money spent but yet you would rather pay for repairs year, after year, after year, through the operational budget and have to pay for the repairs in their entirety, dollar for dollar, when we have the chance to have to pay only 40 to 44 cents on every dollar spent spread over a 20 to 30 year period. Your way of thinking IS fiscally irresponsible!

    Comment by CharihoParent — January 21, 2008 @ 7:47 pm | Reply

  8. Individual Charlestown taxpayers, regardless of where they live, pay less much, much less than individual Richmond and Hopkinton taxpayers. This is fact. A family living North of Rte. 1 in a $250,000 home pays around $1700 while a Richmond or Hopkinton family living in a $250,000 home pay around $4,000. Therefore, even if Charlestown started their own school system and taxes doubled because of it, the individual family would still pay lower taxes than what Hopkinton and Richmond families pay now for Chariho. If someone can make it any simpler so CharihoParents can understand this easy concept, have at it.

    As for your theory on paying for repairs, I scoff at those who put off repairs and then take a home equity loan to pay for what they should have been maintaining right along. I also laugh at the suggestion that we should pass a bond so we get 40 cents on the dollar. Using your misguided logic, I should buy everything in the Stop & Shop flyer since it is all on sale this week.

    I think it is fiscally irresponsible to spend money foolishly. It is also irresponsible to take out a loan in order to afford an ridiculous operation budget. If employee contracts didn’t far exceed that of the private sector, there would be plenty of money in the budget for maintenance and capital spending. Until Chariho gets control of its spending and budgets, I will never support additional spending. Until Charlestown and Richmond voters demand fiscal responsibility and accountability, I will oppose any bond that ensures Hopkinton families pay the price for Charlestown and Richmond foibles.

    I don’t know how anyone can argue with requiring Chariho to be fiscally responsible and accountable before giving them millions more? I know it is possible, because we have two towns loaded with voters who don’t seem to mind, but I can only shake my head and wonder how this is possible? Maybe Chariho’s failure to educate is the reason? Maybe they all learned new math?

    Comment by Curious Resident — January 21, 2008 @ 9:08 pm | Reply

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