Chariho School Parents’ Forum

July 16, 2008

New Graduation Rates

Filed under: Student Performance — Editor @ 4:32 pm

New graduation rates have been calculated for the state.  At the meeting last night we heard a lot of reasons why not to pay attention to these numbers.

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  1. What are those reasons?

    while Chariho’s drop in percentage is significant, look at schools like Toll Gate and Pilgrim! from around 90% to the mid-sixties.

    Comment by david — July 16, 2008 @ 8:29 pm | Reply

  2. After reading the report, it appears the data reflects a standard by which most people would expect the numbers to be calculated.

    Comment by RS — July 16, 2008 @ 8:43 pm | Reply

  3. No suprises. All the government schools want to present themselves in the best light. Very disappointing to find that after spending $14,000 per year, 1 in 5 students drop out. What a waste of money.

    Comment by Curious Resident — July 17, 2008 @ 12:41 am | Reply

  4. David remeber one thing, although the numbers are concerning they are NO different then before, just a new way of calculating. The same amount of students are graduating or dropping out, so don’t get to thrown off by the numbers. When the minutes of this meeting are approved I will post them here so you can see that we are not taking this lightly nor is the administration.

    I read through the paper a few times and still not sure I grasp the whole concept of how they figure these numbers but none the less it is something that needs to be monitored and a plan implemented to acheive higher rates. Not because I feel we need to impress anyone with numbers but; because I want to see our students do better. I don’t care if it is 93% or 80%, I want to see us always looking to better our school system.

    Comment by Bob Petit — July 17, 2008 @ 9:14 am | Reply

  5. You’d think with the millions we spend on psychologists and social service employees we’d have very few dropouts. As math scores demonstrate, you don’t even have be proficient to graduate. Why would anyone dropout?

    Comment by Curious Resident — July 17, 2008 @ 11:15 am | Reply

  6. It appears the numbers are different than before, a student taking 5 years to graduate was not reflected as not graduating in 4 years under the old system, they now are counted as not graduating(in 4 years). So this method doesn’t cover up the fact some students fail to graduate in 4 years, it appears the previous method did. In essence, it tends to show a shortcoming in the educational system that was previously undisclosed.

    Comment by RS — July 17, 2008 @ 8:22 pm | Reply

  7. The new calculations eliminate the “unknown” category where many students were previously placed.

    I was most surprised by the RYSE change. We went from a 100% graduation rate down to 47%. Probably indicates that students are in RYSE a lot longer than the normal time (at an average of $67k per).

    There are two kinds of kids in RYSE – children with very high needs and students placed there because they violated a school policy and exceeded the time we could suspend them from school. We can presume that the ones used in graduation calculations are predominantly the former – the 8% proficiency in math is probably another indicator of that.

    This speaks very strongly to me that we should be putting more emphasis on evaluations and then determine what are the appropriate skills to teach. Sometimes life skills are enough. Why keep someone in a public school for up to the age of 21 just because we haven’t yet gotten them to an age appropriate academic level. Does someone who will be dependant on a family member for their entire life really need to spend 8 years learning fractions? At what point does a school take over too much of what a family should do?

    Comment by Bill Felkner — July 17, 2008 @ 9:23 pm | Reply

  8. Bill not sure there is anything that could be done about someone being in school until they are 21. If they are there because they need to education for special needs or not, what can be said? How would you suggest that be handled? Can’t just throw them out.

    Comment by Bob Petit — July 18, 2008 @ 8:54 am | Reply

  9. Why can’t we throw them out? Why not let them stay until they are 85 instead of 21? Makes as much sense.

    Unfortunately there are people who can’t get beyond a certain point educationally. Banging our head into the wall at $67,000 per year may make Mr. Petit feel good about himself, but I don’t want to waste all that money to make the Mr. Petit’s of the world feel good.

    HOw about having some empathy for everyone and not just “special needs”? Imagine how good you’ll feel if you’re not forcing area families into poverty?

    Comment by Curious Resident — July 18, 2008 @ 11:18 am | Reply

  10. What I was asking Bill is what can be done? Legally can you do anything to them. I would be willing to say that with “NCLB” you don’t have a choice in the matter. So it is not my world that makes these laws or mandates but it is mine and yours that live by them.

    85 instead of 21 foolishness but I expect no less. I hope you are thankful that all of your children are healthy and don’t need any special help.

    CR I was wondering what your take is on the movie studio proposal at exit 2? Do you think it would be a good thing for this town and help with the tax base?

    Comment by Bob Petit — July 18, 2008 @ 1:11 pm | Reply

  11. Bill the drop in rate from 100% to 47%; could it also mean that they are graduation in 5 years instead of 4? And not 21?

    Comment by Bob Petit — July 18, 2008 @ 1:15 pm | Reply

  12. oops sorry that should say graduating in 5 years

    Comment by Bob Petit — July 18, 2008 @ 2:40 pm | Reply

  13. If students graduate without proficiency in math, are they really graduating or are we giving them a gift? What good is a Chariho diploma if it isn’t validation of math proficiency?

    85, 21, 45, or whatever…if a person is incapable of learning beyond a certain point, then we are throwing money away in futile efforts to teach them what they cannot learn.

    If NCLB is the culprit, so be it, but lets not pretend we’re actually helping children (or adults) by occupying a few hours a day of their time. Let’s be honest, they’d probably be better off getting on with their lives than wasting time trying to learn beyond their ability.

    I have no definitive opinion of the movie studio. When it was first introduced I did a bit of research on the company and the ownership. I found quite a number of questionable issues which I reported on Hopkinton RI Speaks. Beyond that I’ve had no personal involvement.

    In general I am a capitalist and believe in free markets. I believe the government has a role in regulating fair markets…and then get out of the way. Do you have a point you want to make?

    Comment by Curious Resident — July 18, 2008 @ 3:36 pm | Reply

  14. no just a question. I will hold my comments right now.

    Comment by Bob Petit — July 18, 2008 @ 4:10 pm | Reply

  15. RYSE has spent resources finding a parent a job – thats not mandated, it is a decision of the school. What could we do? We could say that that will not be tollerated. But what happened when we tried to even get a competitive bid for the RYSE services? A no-bid contract was awarded because our service provider has a monopoly on “wrap-around” services that Kathy Perry has dictated as necessary.

    ALso, did you notice that we are paying Autism of RI to consult to RYSE? Why are we doing that when we pay Psy Centers 3/4 of a million dollars a year for them to handle it?

    The answer to “what can we do” is simple. Don’t do it anymore. Open it up to competitive bidding and hold them accountable. But for that to happen we would have to have control of RYSE- which the no-bid contact issue showed us we don’t.

    Everyone knows what to do, its up to the school committee to do it. Just like the employee contracts. We tried to change some things last year but couldn’t even get an analysis from Chariho because (according to Ricci) Brian Stanley wouldn’t do it because of a conflict of interest. Then we voted to stop the contracts but RIcci forgot to tell us that they would be rolled over anyway. On Tuesday we had an opportunity to eliminate that roll over in a new contract but now we use the excuse “let the sub committee do it”

    Excuse after excuse. I’ll make the call right now – next year’s teacher contract will end the same as they are today – raises will be much more than the private market and insurance co-pays will be much less than the private market. I hope I’m wrong but I’ve seen nothing from the committee to suggest it will change. Just a lot of talk.

    Comment by Bill Felkner — July 18, 2008 @ 11:40 pm | Reply

  16. Long time Hopkinton employer Green Plastic recently cut employees and lowered pay for the employees who remain. Where are the tears? Where are the editorials?

    Time for government employees to do their part. Politicians are proud as peacocks if they keep spending increases under 5%. This disregards the absurd salaries and benefits secured in previous contracts. We should see spending decreases for the next 10 years.

    Keep it up and nobody will be left to pay. My child will not live in Hopkinton nor Rhode Island if I have anything to say about it (and I do). We will not stay here to see our retirement savings go to pay taxes so government employees can retire after 20 years of work.

    RYSE is an employee boondoggle. From aides to assistance to social workers to psychologists, RYSE acts as a local employment agency. All of these “new” employees eligible for salaries and benefits far above Green Plastic employees and most other private sector employees.

    Chariho depends on a busy and/or ignorant community unable to see what is in front of our noses. Chariho can keep playing the game. Hopkinton may have woken up. The next bond vote should tell us if this is true. I won’t be here to see it, but I relish the thought of what will happen to the system if things don’t change…it can’t be sustained. A price will be paid.

    Comment by Curious Resident — July 19, 2008 @ 12:44 am | Reply

  17. The drop to 47% does not surprise me. Like I said under another post, explain to me how RYSE can have 100% graduation rate when I know of 1 person who quit out of frustration. How is this figured in.

    As far as the movie studio, don’t fret. It is gone. Don’t waste your breath, unless there is a point to be made.

    Bill, no-one has the guts to challenge the union. I think you are right on all counts.

    Well, they, the school committee, should be educating themselves now. Anyone who has benefited or will benefit from a teacher contract should recuse themselves.

    It’s time the school committee stood up for the taxpayers who have to foot the bill. Speaking of, my tax bill came in, and we just missed the $4,000 mark. Bummer! Guess I can’t celebrate that milestone this year. I’m sure it will happen next year though.

    Comment by Lois Buck — July 19, 2008 @ 12:46 am | Reply

  18. The next bond vote will be telling. I’m proud that Hopkinton is standing firm. I hope they have the guts to continue the tea party! I can only hope that the other towns will bring out the tea bags, and JUST SAY NO!

    Comment by Lois Buck — July 19, 2008 @ 12:54 am | Reply

  19. Bill what does that have to do with teaching studets until 21 years old? That was what you were talking about. Say we turned around and sent them back out, would or could they still attend until 21, this is a question and knowing your wife is involved somewhat; I think in special ed I thought you would know. Is it mandated to teach them?

    As for helping families find a job, I don’t know what to say about that. What did they do to help the family find a job? I have helped people find jobs, did they spend money to help this family? I know you have commented on this before but I didn’t see, and I may have missed, where they spent any money doing this. Was it a matter of just saying, “I know someone looking for workes and can put a word in for you if you want to work”? This happens all the time.

    As for the roll over in contracts, we are looking into this. I mentioned it first and want to do it. The reason we asked to wait is because we are looking into all aspects of the contracts. Speaking of contracts, you were the memeber voted in by the body to handle the last contracts in a sub committee, you had a chance to change a lot more and didn’t do it, don’t make it sound like it is everyone else Bill. You were right in that room just like the rest of us. One thing about you is that you bring things up but you never follow through or fight hard enough for it. You come out here post things and dissapear same as in the meetings. If you read the contracts that were in you packet you would have known that the contracts would have rolled over. I was baffled that night that it was a motion to table and voted to approve. I voted not to table it because I read my packet and I knew if it was tabled it was a mute point.

    Lois the 100% counts toward a certain year, you might have known someone that dropped out because of frustration but that person would have been just for that year. Again I go back to the first point I made of this graduation rate, We need to do better. We needed to do better when it was 93% and we will always in my eyes need to do better.

    I brought up the Studio for this reason:

    CR complains that we are all in the poor house, we had a chance to bring in this studio and along with it jobs. The senators and reps fought hard to get us this studio. The night of the hearing at the state house, not one town councilor showed up to fight for the studio. They could have at the very least gone and made an appearance to allow the town to look further into this studio and see if it would work for our town. I realize the school is under the gun because of the budget. But here is a place the town could have tried to help itsef and no one shows up. So yes it is gone and thank you Hopkinton town Council for the opportunity to at least look further into this project.

    As for the school committee educating ourselves, we are all ready doing that.

    Comment by bob petit — July 19, 2008 @ 8:28 am | Reply

  20. Bob,
    Firstly, the “21″ point is that at some point there needs to be a limit to what society is responsible for – whether it is for a child with behavior issues or developmental disabilities. After upwards of 16 years for a K-12 education, a child can leave with nothing more than basic living skills. Those are certainly important, but why is society asked to pay for even 7 years (RYSE high school) at $67k per year to teach someone skills they could learn at home (only 8% can score a 62.5% or better on a math test). We made a social contract to provide certain services and those services are being redefined and expanded by the service provider (Chariho). The more society supplies, the less that family, faith and friends will. No, this is not the politically correct answer.

    And yes we pay for it – that was the no-bid contract for wrap-around services you approved.

    Why don’t you give your checkbook to the local mechanic and tell him he is in charge of deciding what services will be performed on your car. Better yet, give him your checkbook but tell him you will pay for whatever services he deems worthy for my car. Oil changes will be down to every 500 miles.

    And yes, Kat is involved in sped. As a matter of fact, she was paid to consult to RYSE when it was developed. Apparently, Kathy Perry didn’t like her advice. Didn’t you notice the incredibly rude attitude given to Kat by Perry at the 1st and last time she attended the graduation?

    We have passed no-bid contracts, we have ignored parents who complain, we have triple legal bills fighting parents who wanted to remove their kids. This is what you have done on the school committee to help RYSE not help the kids. If making RYSE better was the intention and not protecting the revenue source, why didn’t the committee (YOU INCLUDED) allow Elaine Morgan to speak when she, as a parent of a RYSE student, tried to tell us about being forced into a bad program – a program that lead to the child’s breakdown?

    Secondly, don’t talk about things you apparently have no knowledge of. You were not at all of the contract negotiation meetings. Do you know how many times I was outvoted on the contact sub committee? How I was responsible for developing the merit pay proposal and asked to present it (which is fine, only noting the lack of effort from others)? How many times Andy P tried to scare us with talks of strike?

    I don’t remember you complaining that Andy P is allowed to negotiate for the committee but he once negotiated for Chariho teachers. Similarly, no one objected when the former treasurer also negotiated for the committee even though he used to negotiate for the teachers. He also got $15k worth of health insurance as payment for a $10k job (what we pay now), plus his wife got a $5k buyback). More examples of corruption at Chariho that you continue to protect. Why haven’t you ever done anything about that? Or are you just going to criticize my efforts?

    How many times was it that I couldn’t even get something proposed? How many times Andy P would make his little speech to the opponents and leak one of our intents (ask Deb Jennings – why did Andy P leave teh chair seat?????? You were at that meeting – I don’t remember you doing anything about it).

    Wake up or stop bull s***** everyone here. I was 1 vote of 3 on the sub committee and I tried to do several more things that didn’t come out but was blocked because we didn’t pre-notify them of our intentions. That’s why I told the lawyer to include a disclaimer of intent. You were at the end meeting when we were blocked from introducing things. Why didn’t you tell the lawyer to include that disclaimer? Or, again, are you just waiting to criticize my efforts? You should direct your energies at the system that is failing our children, not trying to find fault in what I’m doing. Unless you have a different agenda.

    To suggest my initiatives failed because I don’t “follow through” or “fight hard enough” is absurd. Not even worthy of response.

    And if you knew the roll-over was going to hurt us, why didn’t you say something rather than remain silent and let the contracts continue with the special deals? Protecting someone?

    As for keeping out people with conflicts of interest – We have so many people on the committee related to public employees we wouldn’t have a quorum if we eliminated them all. Me, Bill D, Andy P, Andy M, Bob P, and Terry S. Holly E is in teacher training. Those I know about – there could be more. Andy P still involves himself in the meetings but Bill says he doesn’t (but you will see when I post the minutes of the sub committee that he attended and seemed to be given more latitude than anyone from the public ever did at a regular meeting).

    The answer is holding them accountable – not making rules that are designed to eliminate corruption. I really don’t care who is related to whom if I’m not forced to do business with them. Let them be corrupt. If they are we should be able to leave (just like every other business) not held hostage by a monopoly.

    Bob, for 7 months the NEA wasted tax payer money with that complaint at the LRB. I tried several times to get access to the information but the school committee (you included) would not allow me to speak with the attorney even though my name was the only one listed on the complaint. Not only did you never attempt to help me get access to the information (not once did you even support my request) but your reaction was to make a motion giving Ricci full access to the lawyer at his whim. According to you, Ricci may speak with the lawyers about a complaint filed against my actions but I may not. Why? Why do you protect a monopoly?

    Comment by Bill Felkner — July 19, 2008 @ 10:33 am | Reply

  21. Let’s play a game of pretend. Let’s pretend that the person who actually questions Chariho’s administration is the bad guy, and the clowns who rubber stamp every contract and progam are the good guys.

    Let’s then pretend that School Committee members with relatives employed by Chariho can be objective. Let’s pretend Mr. Petit’s cousin refused to provide financial analysis to the School Committee and Mr. Petit apparently is the only one aware of the ramifications but keeps it to himself…only later to brag he knew all along.

    I would problaby support a nuclear power station in Hopkinton. I’m not a NIMBY type…but regardless of how many businesses Hopkinton attracts, I still don’t want government to grow.

    If not having businesses come to Hopkinton is the price we have to pay to constrain government growth, then I hope no businesses ever come to Hopkinton. Government isn’t just a drain on the financial resources of families, government growth directly correlates to the loss of individual freedoms. More government equals less liberty. How did America get to a place where there is a clamor for more government and less liberty?

    Comment by Curious Resident — July 19, 2008 @ 10:56 am | Reply

  22. […] is “fighting hard enough”) Filed under: 1 — Bill Felkner @ 12:34 pm In a previous post, fellow committee member Bob Petit and myself are having a discussion.  Just thought I would post […]

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  23. Bob Petit….youre a complete idiot

    Comment by what? — July 19, 2008 @ 7:54 pm | Reply

  24. Bob,
    You’ve always said that the changes need to come from Providence. But, when our charming representatives and senators upstate would rather promote casinos and lotteries over business, then there isn’t much Hopkinton is going to do to change their minds. Whether it be tax credits or whatever, the state was unwilling to do their part. The business climate in this state is rated, I believe, 49th in the country. It’s no wonder they drove them away. Lowly little Hopkinton does not have the ability to bring in Hollywood without help from the state. I think you need to research this before you accuse the HTC of not doing enough.

    But, I am not surprised by your comments. They are a little bit out in left field as the post was about graduation rates. I’m still trying to understand your point regarding the studio with regards to graduation rates.

    Comment by Lois Buck — July 20, 2008 @ 12:47 am | Reply

  25. Mr. Petit is among the Chariho apologists. When Hopkinton families are impoverished because Chariho spends too much, apologists refuse to hold Chariho accountable and instead blame the local government for not confiscating enough money in taxes. It’s not a spending issue with them…the problem is that we just don’t give them enough of our money.

    There is an attitude among many in this country…very pervasive in Rhode Island…that government is the answer to problems. If a child has a problem, the government is the solution. If a family has a problem…more government. Politicians are elected by making promises. They promise the sun and moon and we are stupid enough to believe they can deliver the sun and the moon.

    Human history is replete with human suffering and pain caused by the the few thinking they should dictate (through government) to the many. These are the elites. They know everything, and no matter how many times their philosophy is proven wrong and dangerous, they stick with it. If they scare enough of us we vote for them or for their programs. It works and it makes me very concerned about my child’s future.

    We will leave Rhode Island to get away from this attitude. It is comforting to think they government is your daddy and will take care of everything, so eventually there may be no place for our children to run. When that day comes it will be very sad for America.

    Comment by Curious Resident — July 20, 2008 @ 2:09 pm | Reply

  26. If you drop a frog in boiling water he will leap right out. If you slowly heat the water he will be content until it’s too late to get out.

    That is exactly how history works. It moves slowly and we never really see any danger until it’s too late.

    Remember how suppressed workers were before unions came along? The unions leveled the playing field. Unfortunately, over a long period of time the pendulum swung too far. Slowly, businesses and factories closed and jobs left the country. We were comfortable and didn’t see the change coming. We blamed everyone except ourselves for what happened. We weren’t alert to how slow things change over time.

    World War II, and the Korean War, demonstrated how powerful a united nation could be. Our nation, and our families, was united. The father was the head of the family and the President was the head of the nation. Both were highly respected. We were content and happy.

    We were good at fighting a hot war but we were unprepared to fight a cold war with the communists in the 50’s. They knew they couldn’t change us but they didn’t care. Their philosophy was to wait it out and capture the minds of our children. They loaded our colleges with many of their professors and waited. It didn’t take long to see the results.

    The 60”s ushered in the radicals, drug culture, student protesters ,and the Vietnam War. The aim of the cold war was to divide and conquer. They divided our families and the nation.

    The secret to defeating a polite and respectful people is to scream. The louder and longer you scream the better your chance of winning. Radicals are masters at this form of attack. They know if you constantly scream and repeat a lie it will eventually become the truth.

    The media, and Hollywood , hammered us with hate America themes and stories. Our service men, and women, were jeered, cursed, and spit on.

    Even the people, who latter wanted to become their President, thrashed them. We lost our first War in history. There was no hero’s homecoming for our fighting men and women.

    The Reverend King, who was raised in the old school, peacefully changed the race issue and united the people. When he died the new breed of leaders like the Jesse Jackson’s, Lewis Farakon’s Al Sharpton’s, and Rev. Wright’s put a lid on his efforts and turned racism into a money making machine.

    Corporations were green-mailed by threats of protests, product boycotts, or endless lawsuits. Every issue, large or small, became a race issue. The public recoiled in fear of being called a racist. Their voices were silenced because one word could cost you a career, get you fired, or get you sued.

    Even politicians buckled under to the pressure. The Florida legislature issued a formal apology for having slavery 200 years ago. They were thanked by being asked for compensation.

    There is no end in sight for this kind of nonsense. America didn’t capture slaves and bring them to America. Their own people sold them to slave traders from several nations. This knowledge doesn’t stop the screamers. History is what it is and you can’t change it. There have been many tragic events in history. You acknowledge them and move on.

    They divided our nation into two separate Americas. We now have Americans, and African-Americans, although Africa has nothing to do with being an American. You can be one or the other but not both. You are what you were born to be. You do not subordinate our country to any foreign nation. It’s equivalent to flying the African flag above the Stars and Stripes. If you hyphenate two countries America always comes first.

    T his election year could be the turning point in our history because the frog theory has come into play. It’s time to step back and look at how the country has slowly changed since the cold war started. Don’t get caught up in all the hype.

    George McGovern was the first Presidential candidate to test the waters with college students. The Clintons played a big role in his campaign. It was the worst campaign ever run. He was crushed in the election.

    Step two was to infiltrate all the information vehicles such as radio, newspapers, magazines, TV and movies. They were quite successful at that.

    Jimmy Carter was the first President to demonstrate the leadership skills of the far left. Weak military, high taxes, runaway inflation, 19% mortgage rates, and plain incompetence ended his career in Washington. Iran, a small country at the time, took American hostages and kicked sand in our face. By negotiating from weakness Carter could not get the hostages released.

    The big benefit of the Carter years is that they were followed by the Reagan years. The nation got a clear look at the difference between a weak nation and a strong nation. Every student should know this difference. When Ronald Reagan took over the hostages were quickly released, taxes were lowered, inflation dropped, mortgage rates dropped, and the military was strengthened. Russia quickly waved the white flag and waited for another Democrat term.

    Clinton took over Carters uncompleted social programs. He weakened the m ilitary and tried to pass large government programs. An Intern derailed his Presidency. While he was tied up with his personal problems his lawyers ran the country. He passed up three opportunities to take out Osama Bin Laden. This eventually cost us the loss of our Twin Towers , thousands of American lives, and got us involved in a war with Iraq .

    By the end of his term the left had captured a large share of the media and it flexed its muscle in 2000. The hate Bush campaign got off to a roaring start. The brainwashing theory of repeating the same story over and over again was launched.

    There were endless stories about our evil nation and its President. Top-secret plans were leaked to the press and printed for the entire world to see. Hollywood cranked out documentaries about the evil Bush administration and our evil military. They laid the groundwork for the next election. The ACLU flooded the courts with lawsuits and the Democrat party became a law firm. Almost every incumbent, or his or her spouse, is a lawyer.

    They now have the perfect candidate because they can squash criticism by playing the race card.

    If you don’t like Obama, or criticize him, you are a racist. They can hide his inexperience and background by turning him into a rock star and singing change and hope. They don’t tell us what kind of change, or how it will be done, only that you should hope for the best. By keeping the hype going they don’t have to put anything of substance on=2 0the table.

    The only thing we really know about Obama is that his wife has never been proud to be an American. They want us to believe that his liberal college professors, Rev. Pfleger, his ties to radicals Bill Ayer and Lewis Farakon, and listening to the Rev. Wright’s hate talks for 20 years, had no influence on his thinking. If they didn’t, then who did? He wasn’t in business and didn’t see fit to serve his country. These people launched his political career and their organizations received earmarks in return for their campaign donations and political help. They must have had some influence.

    Rev. Wright’s church received over $15 million. That’s only one small local church. Think on a national scale.

    The change being promoted is a change back to the Carter years. It started in 2006 when the lawyer party took over. There have been endless lawsuits and investigations in retaliation for the Clinton years. It keeps the lawyers busy but does nothing for the economy. The economy has been in a downward spiral since they took over.

    Returning to the Carter years of high taxes, high inflation, and a weak military is not the change we are looking for. We cannot cower to a bunch of crazies whose only goal in life is to kill us.

    The old sage’s (over 50) will have to play a big role in this election. The young people simply don’t know what the aged know. The advantage of aging is the knowledge you accumulated. You know what United States means. You know wha t the seldom-heard word respect means. You know how wonderful freedom and independence are. You know the difference between a strong and a weak nation; and you know what it takes to keep it strong. You know history because you have lived it.

    Although the old guard is dying off, and getting too tired to fight, they have to muster one more charge. If they don’t, our children, and grandchildren, will never know the joy and freedom that is the bedrock of our country. The heat is slowly being turned up and the water is getting hot. The old frogs better start jumping before it’s too late.

    Dr. Larry J. Tracy

    Comment by Boiled Americans — July 20, 2008 @ 2:27 pm | Reply

  27. The 47% RYSE graduation rate is poor and I am sure a number of students take 5 years to graduate, but the 35% drop-out rate that everyone is ignoring is worse. RYSE is not helping a large percentage of students who are old enough and bored enough and angry enough to quit. Why is no one concerned about the enormous drop-out rate? There are only 17 students in the cohort – that means that 8 graduate, 7 drop out, 1.5 is still in school and .5 gets their GED.

    Any employee using company time for personal or extracurricular activities is stealing from their employer. Therefore, any employed person using their time on campus during a school day (that we pay for) to assist a parent to find a job is spending Chariho money. We are not a social service agency. We pay for those too through our state taxes.

    Comment by BarbaraC — July 20, 2008 @ 3:36 pm | Reply


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