Chariho School Parents’ Forum

May 2, 2009

Richmond v Hopkinton

Filed under: contract negotiations,Police — Editor @ 7:36 pm

There has been a lot of chatter comparing police contracts in Richmond and Hopkinton  I think there is a considerable difference but I would be interested in what you all think – it’s your money.

Find them both (or any contract) at http://www.oceanstatepolicy.org/transparency.php

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8 Comments »

  1. I’ll give the contract a look if I get the chance, but as with Chariho, the biggest waste is in the numbers of government employees even more than the overly generous compensation.

    Comment by Curious Resident — May 3, 2009 @ 2:57 am | Reply

  2. Curios Resident, The only think I can remember in the local papers and others may want to chime in is regarding the Hopkinton Contract that has been ‘negotiated’ in recent vintage was believe to be and I’m paraphrasing, “giving away the candy store’ by the former Town Manager Salerno while it has been noted in Richmond in the paper (THE SUN) that after spending resources (money) training officers they haven’t been able to retain them and they have left for other departments due to low pay.

    Others may have a different bend. I remember seeing that in the paper.

    Comment by james hirst — May 3, 2009 @ 3:13 pm | Reply

  3. As the resident historian Mr. James Hirst, I’m guessing your recollection is correct. I have little doubt Hopkinton gave away the “candy store” in the police contracts. With a history of criminalizing dissent, I might be prone to give the police whatever they ask for as well.

    As for Richmond losing police to higher paying jobs, oh, well, I suspect there weren’t many crime waves in the absence of a couple of officers. At least it appears Richmond has shown respect for their taxpayers by negotiating frugal contracts. As someone who thinks most government entities are overstaffed and over-funded, having employees leave for more generous municipalities is a good thing, not a bad. I’d like to see a culture where people see the private sector as lucrative rather than thinking of the government as their meal ticket…it makes for a much healthier and productive economy.

    Comment by Curious Resident — May 3, 2009 @ 4:24 pm | Reply

  4. I personally don’t have time to track down such information but found the information (it won’t happen often Curious Resident, regarding Town Politics as Chariho is the Fox in all tri towns hen houses at close to 75-80% of the Town Budgets).

    EX-MANAGER: HOPKINTON DEAL ‘GIVES AWAY CANDY STORE’

    Eric Creamer, The Sun Staff (April 1, 2006)
    Hopkinton-The former Hopkinton town manager blamed by police union officials for “stalling” negotiations before officers reached a one-year agreement last week says he stands by his move to push for a deal that would be better for the town.

    Daniel Salerno said he’s being used a scapegoat for what he called “stalled” negotitiations for a new work contract with the Police Department and the Town. There is more if the Hopkinton Councilors want to research.

    On Side by article:Hopkinton Police Contract-Starting Pay

    7/1/02 Patrolman $26.747 Sgt $42.033 Lt. $44,924 Avg. Ann. Increase 0
    6/30/05 $32,542 $51,140 $53,892 6.5 %
    7/1/05 $33,599 $52,802 $55,613 3.25

    What’s in the contract? Extensive health coverage.

    April 1, 2006 page 1 and page 5.

    If that appeals to Hopkinton Voters I’m sure you will blog back and you will get that from me as i have that full article or will send it onto whoever feels its noted.

    Regarding Police Officers coming and goings Mr. Oppenheimer would have very long recollection of his dealings while he has been on the Richmond Council for close to 20 years.

    Comment by james hirst — May 3, 2009 @ 6:16 pm | Reply

  5. Apologies noted Mr. Oppenheimer may chose to show his voice in his dealings regarding the Town of Richmond Police Officers, respectively over his years on the council.

    Comment by james hirst — May 3, 2009 @ 6:21 pm | Reply

  6. How do we really know the RPD officers leave for a “better” paying job? This line is in the union playbook, and if they do leave, then they are replaced with a new hire officer who garners less salary. Since the crime level in Richmond doesn’t really require sophisticated crime solving investigations, swat teams, and years of undercover work, the loss of experience is a mute point. Maybe the real reason is they don’t like their boss…..or….

    Comment by RS — May 3, 2009 @ 7:42 pm | Reply

  7. AND for the CHARIHO School Budget, Vote NO on May 12, 2009

    Comment by Dorothy — May 8, 2009 @ 5:37 pm | Reply

  8. Dorothy, You are correct on this one big time. If we go back to Wednesday January 28,1976 under the headline of Chariho budget Calls for 30% Town Appriation Increase.

    The Sub Headline (and it will be used by the current Chariho Crowd, though we know better) State Aid Blamed for Rise. It has also been noted that in 1991 and 1992 cut to education, that it has fallen on the ‘municipalities’ due to lack off aid. Are the towns of Charlestown, Richmond and Hopkinton ready?

    The Article by Pam Stryjewski, dated Wednesday january 28 1976
    Instead of a full blown article. We’ll stick to the first four paragraphs for brevity.

    The rate of inflation and a freeze in state aid to education will cause the towns contribution to the Chariho School Committee’s budget for 1976-77 to rise by almost 30 percent, it was disclosed last night.

    The budget, presented to a group of 50 taxpayers last night is estimated at $2,584,056, up 8.8 percent from last years total of $2, 374,440.

    Anticipated reimbursements, however, amount to $1, 311,533, a drop from last year by 5.8%, due to the state aid freeze and a Department of Education overestimate of state aid ration by 9 percent.

    Total town contributions amount to $1,272,523, a 29.5 percen increase from last years figure of 928,245.

    School Supereintendent Melvin Mednelson, using an overhaed projetor to explain the budget said two areas in the budget decreased in cost. General Control (salaries for school committee, superintendent and other related
    expenses )was down by $210, due to a recategorizing of a line item for a computer operator.

    . . . The largest area of the budget is instruction (teachers salaries and textbooks) which shows an estimated increase of 5.9 percent to a total of of $1,691,960. The figure would not be final until a new contract is signed with the teachers.

    Under another article: Ure blasts Chariho Accounting Practices, March 13, 1996 Page 7, by Mark Reynolds.

    To shorten this article for appropriate reading,

    Ure also criticized the aministration for investing $3 million dollars in town payments before spending the money. DiFabio said investing funds that haven’t been spent is a standard procedure for increasing revenue through increased interest.

    “This is $3 million Chariho has invested while Hopkinton is borrowing,” Ure said.

    Ure,excoriated District Superintendent John Pini, saying the administarion doesn’t follow zero based budgeting, that it anticipates anticpates an annual budget increase of 5 to 6 percent.

    She said Pini event admitted this a meeting last year.

    “We do a zero based budget , said Pini.

    The Next Day under the headline of PINI’s internal memoc called for
    URE’s removal.

    Mr. Pini, was caught with double speak apparently as it would seem that one side of his mouth didn’t agree with the other side. How unfornate but not.

    MORE To Come

    Comment by james hirst — May 8, 2009 @ 8:23 pm | Reply


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