Chariho School Parents’ Forum

June 16, 2009

Did you know…

Did you know that 20% of the Hopkinton police force got a 16% raise last year?  Will you be happy if that is reduced to 12%?  10%?  Or would you expect them to receive the same 2% everyone else in town is making?

And Hopkinton is one of only 2-3 towns that give compound cola  pensions. If you heard my speech at the Tea Party you know that if a person retired at age 45 with a $70k pension (which is not as good as Col. Pare who retied at 43 with a larger pension) that person would be making $185,000 per year by the time they reached the average life expectancy of 78. We would have given them $4,000,000 over their retirement.

Just some things to think about.



  1. Didn’t the Town manager negotiate this contract on the taxpayers behalf or was it already in place?

    Comment by RS — June 16, 2009 @ 9:58 am | Reply

  2. Gov’t run pension need to go. If the unions want to take a gov’t retirement contribution and manage a collective pension for their members, go for it.

    Pay the gov’t employees fair market salary and benefits like the rest of us.

    Comment by Gene Daniell — June 16, 2009 @ 10:22 am | Reply

  3. .Will club members pay for the event? IF not will they pay for $ or food?

    The town manager is the only one with the authority to negotiate contracts unless we decide otherwise. This is allowed because the manager usually negotiates small contracts for single employees. I am not aware if other towns allow the manager to do this for larger contracts. Normally, it is a sub-committee or a professional is hired. If the town council was negotiating you would probably see votes for tentative agreements (TAs) as they were agreed upon. Those votes would need to be announced in open meetings.

    I won’t share what others say in Executive Session, contrary to what Chariho has said, but I can say what I do and think (although there is no penalty for disclosing executive session material and it is always an option for elected representatives when they feel the public needs to know). But just speaking for myself, I have never given an approval during a request for “consensus” on the current contract. And since those aren’t “votes” they are not shared with you.

    The current contract expires July 1. In about 15 days.

    Our resident investigator gave me a copy of a Westerly Sun article from April 2006 discussing the police contract that was signed then (the last agreement). It was a 1-year extension.

    At that time the town manager negotiated along side Dan Kinder, a professional labor attorney. However, according to the Sun, he was “ousted by the Town Council in November after six months on the job – and after no confidence votes by separate employee unions”.

    Why would they (and we now) let someone negotiate a contract with a group that has the authority do a “no confidence” vote?

    I’ve publicly expressed displeasure with a couple things DeLibero did and I just ran into another one. I’ll post on it soon

    Comment by Bill Felkner — June 16, 2009 @ 10:46 am | Reply

  4. I give the “no confidence” votes from unions in negotiations the same weight as my 10 month olds crying when their diapers are dirty or they are hungry……its to be expected. Unions will always shoot for the moon during negotiations, but the good old boy system in RI gives them the stars along with the moon. We really don’t have to be overly concerned with losing our workers if we play hardball, they won’t be able to sell their property for anywhere near what they owe on it, and if they leave, the 11% unemployed workers would happily fill the jobs and at a lower(less tenure) wage. Let the crying begin.

    Comment by RS — June 16, 2009 @ 1:23 pm | Reply

  5. What do they call the whining municipal workers of the tri towns?
    My boss (Towns) is like a diaper. Full of S*** and always on my A**

    Lovely. They must want to join NEA/National Extortion Agency/Association.

    Felkner must have a solid steel pair to bring it to all of us tri town taxpayers with this blog. The man is outstanding. And you bloggers who bring something to the table (numbers, facts, articles) are to be commended as well.

    Comment by Tim — June 16, 2009 @ 9:53 pm | Reply

  6. Another “No Confidence” vote from another of RI’s unions………..these guys can’t even come up with something new…….time for change…….now where did we put the axe.

    Comment by RS — June 22, 2009 @ 9:06 pm | Reply

  7. So the teachers show the utmost concern for the laws of the State of Rhode Island….

    ….EXCEPT when the towns have to exceed the 5.5% property tax cap.

    It’s all about the money……..ALL THE MONEY ALL THE TIME.

    Comment by RS — June 24, 2009 @ 8:52 am | Reply

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