Chariho School Parents’ Forum

June 18, 2009

Is this a way around the voters?

Filed under: bond,RYSE,Stimulus — Editor @ 8:44 pm

One of the many projects being developed over at OSPRI is a website containing all the stimulus projects being proposed in RI. It is designed to let taxpayers comment and vote on the merits of the project.

It’s not ready to unveil, but the data is up and I noted the Charhio projects.

You can see the sneak peek here –

You’re welcome to play around with it, but if you click on the left link, “Browse by Submitter” and hit Charhio

There you will  see the $4.4m to build the RYSE school. Which makes me think…

Section 9.5 of the Chariho Act says,

(5)  No action shall be taken with respect to the purchase of land, the construction of buildings and the extension of the scope of functions of the regional school district except upon a majority vote of  voters of the respective member towns as set forth in section 1 hereof.

Will Chariho go to the voters before building the school? What’s the odds that Jon Anderson provides an opinion that states the Act doesn’t apply to federal funds?



  1. Hi!
    I may be wrong but the voters should give their permission or may be required to accept federal funds only if local funds are used also, matching funds? If so can matching funds be used for something voters need to approve the project in the first place. Legally there could be grounds to blocking this?

    Comment by Scott Bill Hirst — June 19, 2009 @ 2:23 pm | Reply

  2. I have first hand knowledge with this. Back several months ago all the cities and towns received a request from the State for all potential projects that might fit the stimulus goals.

    Richmond EDC created our list and as a representative of the REDC I went to talk to Barry about it. He has an existing list of capital projects that was put into the State format and forwarded to the State.

    This all happened in a matter of days, maybe a week. There certainly wasn’t any nefarious intent on Barry’s part, he wouldn’t have even known if we didn’t bring it to him.

    Secondly, if the gov’t offered to fund the RISE school, I’m sure the voters would pass it overwhelmingly, if necessary.

    Comment by Gene Daniell — June 19, 2009 @ 7:18 pm | Reply

  3. It is sad that just because the feds take it from us and then give it back we consider it free money.

    Comment by Editor — June 19, 2009 @ 7:32 pm | Reply

  4. It’s not like it’s new. Byrd and Stevens made their reputations by bring home the pork. It’s not a one party issue.

    Comment by Gene Daniell — June 19, 2009 @ 7:51 pm | Reply

  5. Of course, so it’s sad for any D or R who realizes that this is the attitude that got us into this mess.

    Comment by Editor — June 19, 2009 @ 8:24 pm | Reply

  6. The average citizen doesn’t pay attention to this. They do think it’s free money but forget where the government gets it’s money from. As long as a politician brings home the pork to their district they think he’s doing a fantastic job. Not until the masses wake up will anything change, at the local, state and/or federal level.

    Comment by CharihoParent — June 19, 2009 @ 9:25 pm | Reply

  7. Hi!
    The question legally is can a new building be constructed without voter approval for the RYSE program, regardless who founds it? Obviously upkeep would be district responsibility.

    Comment by Scott Bill Hirst — June 20, 2009 @ 10:20 am | Reply

  8. Anyone listen to Dan Yorke Friday bashing the GA for cutting the Mayorial Academy funding. He was made two points … (1) Current education structure is in need of change,so the $1.5 mil is a drop in the bucket to try something new, (2) If we (RI) could succeed at something new in education there’s a pile of US Ed money to expand the program. He also mentioned that US Dept of Ed is challenging states that didn’t spend education stimulus money for “new” stuff.

    So my point is that getting extra federal money is not always bad, in fact can be great if you are doing good stuff. The sad part is blowing the stimulus money to prevent having to make hard decisions.

    If you’re going to mortgage the future, at least spend the money trying to do something worthwhile.

    Comment by Gene Daniell — June 20, 2009 @ 2:33 pm | Reply

  9. Yes, specifically, $700k was to start the Mayoral Academy, the balance was for other non-traditional-public school proposals. The Obama admin designated the money for new initiatives, not funding existing programs. But the GA used the entire $111m to plug the deficit. It is the single largest line item plugging said gap.

    We have $88m proposed for next year. But Duncan (us dept of ed) sent PA a letter saying they could lose next year’s funding because they used the funds to fill gaps – like we did. It is possible we could too. Angus (Yorke’s guest) is very tied into education reform groups around the country and it wouldn’t surprise me to see RI get on Duncan’s radar and see a similar letter sent to Carcieri.

    Comment by Editor — June 20, 2009 @ 3:17 pm | Reply

  10. Angus was a compelling guest, I liked what he had to say. Also encouraged to see Arne Duncan sending those letters, we’ll see if he really means it.

    Comment by Gene Daniell — June 20, 2009 @ 4:08 pm | Reply

  11. The corrupt relationship between RI pols and the gov’t unions is the biggest problem. I spoke to an official in Teach for America who spoke very highly of Angus and is optimistic he will change the culture where educational failure is ignored in RI. Not me. I don’t think anything will ever change in RI.

    Speaking of failure we still don’t know if RYSE does the job? We still don’t know if it is cheaper to operate? Guess it doesn’t matter. I’m sure if the voters see the word “free” they’ll vote for anything. Even if it makes no sense.

    Let’s face it. Chariho has won. They have enough voters in their corner no matter what they do or want to do. Felkner gone. Bond passed. Budget passed. No sweat. If you’re a parent who gives a rat’s ass about your kids then you should put them in private school. No sense killing yourself expecting Chariho to get better. It’s not happening and not enough people care.

    Comment by Who Cares? — June 21, 2009 @ 5:06 pm | Reply

  12. With the court costs of parents sueing Chariho for forcing their kids into RYSE and the “wrap around services” for parents (for example Drug treatment and job placement for the PARENTS) I don’t see how it could be saving any money. I’m sure the education is inferior to Bradlley or similar programs or RYSE would be anouncing any acheivement from the mountain tops.

    Comment by ARRRR — June 22, 2009 @ 3:58 pm | Reply

  13. Doesn’t matter anyway. Work or not work if the voters hear the word free they’ll fall all over themselves voting for RYSE. Like someone buying a broken television at a yard sale because it’s such a great deal!

    Comment by Who Cares? — June 22, 2009 @ 4:11 pm | Reply

  14. Hi!
    The U.S Secretary is taking Rhode Island for not funding appropriately Charter Schools. It has been in paper(s),. See,.

    Comment by Scott Bill Hirst — June 23, 2009 @ 5:07 pm | Reply

  15. WELL…RYSE may have come back to bite us. RYSE NEVER had a voter OK, as required, the students have been and are currently subjected to an unproven method of “study and treatment”, and the taxpayers pay, and pay, and pay. Seems like this is a “if you build it, they will come”, and if they don’t WANT to come, TOO BAD! Judge, jury, and jailor to continue their grand scheme of continued support, non contract out for bid, non reviewed, continued poor management, which taxpayers may not (in their fargile minds) question. “We are and therefore, we will continue to be” should be the motto of RYSE. Don’t ask, for they won’t tell.

    Comment by Dorothy — June 28, 2009 @ 1:27 pm | Reply

  16. RYSE…..another example of government run madness. I can’t wait for my “free” health care.

    Comment by RS — June 28, 2009 @ 8:38 pm | Reply

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